Ocean/Ice Group Meeting Agenda, November 9, 2016

What Actually Happened

List of papers that was presented at the May 2015 meeting: 

• Expect to use last 30 min for discussions with Chris Golaz on how to best support coupled model with alpha9 / alpha10 / beta1 (discuss process)

• Mathew Maltrud discussed eddy closure 60to30 runs for low-res water cycle / BGC (/wiki/spaces/OCNICE/pages/102039847)
  
  • ocean-ice core circulations having trouble to have robust meridional overturning circulation (MOC) without salinity restoring
  • some improvement with salinity restoring, but additional strength of restoring may be required as demonstrated from RAPID array
    
  • increase in piston velocity reduces drift in salinity
    
  • note, no ocean model in world that doesn't require salinity restoring (e.g., precipitation independent of ocean model without feedback); debate continues over use of restoring timescale
  • sea surface temperature drift is minimal, no restoring needed for sst
  • minimal cost at higher resolution (1440 cores on eos, 6 SYD)
  • BGC version only run for 1 yr, can couple 1 to 2 way with sea ice BGC to add 3-4 cost in individual components above physics-only configuration.  Configurations current in testing by Shanlin Wang (Unlicensed) with Keith Moore et al
• MARBL SciDac project with NCAR with Matt Long for v2
  
• Hard to get anything higher resolution than 60to30 through queue at reasonable SYD because of queue times and node failures
• 16to5 and 18to6 have gone through a few times at 64k processors
• David C. Bader: "don't submit additional jobs on titan (beside Mathew Maltrud and Jon Wolfe)"

• Milena Veneziani: Analysis discussion (milenaMPASAnalysis_Nov2016.pdf) is a continuation of Kate Evans (Unlicensed)' earlier discussion
  
  • MPAS Analysis Members (AMs) performs analysis online, MPAS-Analysis produces plots from MPAS AMs; all must be in sync with ACME
  • MPAS-Analysis is submodule of ACME analysis workflow
  • MPAS-Ocean has test cases (independent of global ocean) and analysis of global ocean is contained in ACME workflow
  • Prioritization of ACME coupled diagnostics
  • Chris Golaz: consider adding more diagnostics for a more complete suite, e.g., add plot of RMS error, plot of sea surface salinity, trends of temp / salinity anomalies vs depth
  • https://github.com/MPAS-Dev/geometric_features: defines ocean regions, southern plains ARM site, Indian monsoon region, etc. (model independent but applied to specific model)
    

• Mark Petersen: progress report on coupled land ice / ocean interactions (/wiki/spaces/OCNICE/pages/100467566)
  
  • sea ice-- ice that freezes at top of ocean between 1-10m thick
  • land ice-- snow accumulating on Greenland and Antarctica
  • ice shelves-- floating ice overhanging ocean from land ice
  • goal is to get ocean to work below ice shelves
  • coupled land ice / ocean interactions running at 0.75 SYPD
  • order of magnitude estimates suggest everything is working correctly, currents extend underneath ice shelf
  • plan: run low and high resolution with CORE-II forcing for with land ice cavities and without-- first group to do this!!!
  • Chris Golaz: "are there enough frames saved from data to make movies?",  Dave would like to have movies for high resolution simulation and use of high frequency AM can be used to produce a movie
  • simulations have fresh water inputs
  • How interactive is land ice?  Simulations have static land ice, but it isn't coupled to land ice model. Wetting / drying is needed to move extent of ice sheet.  Ice sheet model has been forced offline.
  • Want to allow grounding line and front to change via full feedback under two-way coupling
    

• Todd Ringler (Unlicensed): science papers
  • papers compelling and ready to be written but they are awaiting simulation data (esp. high profile papers)
    
  • model development papers already started
  • many papers can be written with CORE-II G case
  • goal is to move to coupled system dynamics, e.g., Julie McClean's Indian dipole paper requires high-res coupled model
    
  • Are simulations producing data needed to write papers? 
    
  • Should be working on model development and writing papers concurrently