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TimeDiscussion LeaderTopic
3:30-3:50Mat Maltrud

Status of CORE-II simulations

3:50-4:10Milena Veneziani

Slides: milenaMPASAnalysis_Nov2016.pdf

/wiki/spaces/OCNICE/pages/86442069

  • summary of what is working
  • what work remains
4:10-4:30Mark Petersen

Ocean circulation in ice shelf cavities

4:30-4:50Todd Ringler

Status of science papers

  • do we need to add papers
  • do we need to cut papers
  • are the simulations configured so that we can write these papers
4:50-5:10Steve Price/wiki/spaces/OCNICE/pages/30442728
30 minutes
we have at least 30 minutes for other discussion topics

What Actually Happened

List of papers that was presented at the May 2015 meeting: 


  • Expect to use last 30 min for discussions with Chris Golaz on how to best support coupled model with alpha9 / alpha10 / beta1 (discuss process)


  • Mathew Maltrud discussed eddy closure 60to30 runs for low-res water cycle / BGC (/wiki/spaces/OCNICE/pages/102039847)
    • ocean-ice core circulations having trouble to have robust meridional overturning circulation (MOC) without salinity restoring
    • some improvement with salinity restoring, but additional strength of restoring may be required as demonstrated from RAPID array
    • increase in piston velocity reduces drift in salinity
    • note, no ocean model in world that doesn't require salinity restoring (e.g., precipitation independent of ocean model without feedback); debate continues over use of restoring timescale
    • sea surface temperature drift is minimal, no restoring needed for sst
    • minimal cost at higher resolution (1440 cores on eos, 6 SYD)
    • BGC version only run for 1 yr, can couple 1 to 2 way with sea ice BGC to add 3-4 cost in individual components above physics-only configuration.  Configurations current in testing by Shanlin Wang (Unlicensed) with Keith Moore et al
  • MARBL SciDac project with NCAR with Matt Long for v2
  • Hard to get anything higher resolution than 60to30 through queue at reasonable SYD because of queue times and node failures
  • 16to5 and 18to6 have gone through a few times at 64k processors
  • David C. Bader: "don't submit additional jobs on titan (beside Mathew Maltrud and Jon Wolfe)"


  • Milena Veneziani: Analysis discussion (milenaMPASAnalysis_Nov2016.pdf) is a continuation of Kate Evans (Unlicensed)' earlier discussion
    • MPAS Analysis Members (AMs) performs analysis online, MPAS-Analysis produces plots from MPAS AMs; all must be in sync with ACME
    • MPAS-Analysis is submodule of ACME analysis workflow
    • MPAS-Ocean has test cases (independent of global ocean) and analysis of global ocean is contained in ACME workflow
    • Prioritization of ACME coupled diagnostics
    • Chris Golaz: consider adding more diagnostics for a more complete suite, e.g., add plot of RMS error, plot of sea surface salinity, trends of temp / salinity anomalies
    • https://github.com/MPAS-Dev/geometric_features: defines ocean regions, southern plains ARM site, Indian monsoon region, etc. (model independent but applied to specific model)




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