BGC Parallel Session Meeting notes
Date and Time
Nov 19, 2019: 3:30 to 4:15 ET
Nov 20, 2019 3:15 to 4:15 ET
Call Info
None. In person meeting.
Attendees
@Katherine Calvin (Unlicensed)
Goals
Discussion items
Time | Item | Who | Notes |
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3:30-3:35 (Tuesday) | Introduction | @Katherine Calvin (Unlicensed) |
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3:35-3:55 | v2 Land Model Updates (LBNL stoichiometry, photosynthesis, allocation) | @Qing Zhu |
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3:55-4:15 | Ocean model: v1 biases and v2 planning | @Nicole Jeffery |
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3:15-3:35 (Wednesday) | v2 Scenarios | @Katherine Calvin (Unlicensed) |
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3:35-3:55 | Discussion: what worked and didn’t work for v1 | @Susannah Burrows |
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3:55-4:15 | Discussion: looking forward to v3 |
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What Actually Happened
Tuesday notes from @Beth Drewniak
Susannah has questions for v3 simulations to answer by tomorrow breakout.
Qing:
Changes in environment = changes in allocation and stoichiometry
Allocation based on resource availability
Flexible C:N:P stoichiometry
Little field data to constrain, but good understanding of relationships
Tropics can uptake more carbon through more efficient phosphorus use.
Discussion:
Oak Ridge and Duke face experiments compared with other models, no consistent result existed between sites. No agreement for static vs. dynamic for allocation/stoichiometry. How does this model fit into that uncertainty?
Only two sites, need more data, not just elevated CO2, but other perturbations. Two sites aren’t convincing for constraining models. Other dynamic allocation schemes exist, we should do parallel testing. We should add to models to test this.
Ocean thinks of stoichiometry to optimize growth, does the database give estimates of this?
We use data to constrain data, want plants to adjust under changes. WE have limited knowledge what should be good target: reproduction, other issues? It’s not clear
Amazon swing seemed less than allowed?
Current vs. future conditions are stronger.
Any molecular biology evidence for carbon adjustment?
There is strong evidence for that, depending (for example) daily timescale
Allometry depends on season. Other models apply other approaches for optimization?
Game theory, etc. This is designed for a longer time scale.
Phenological stages: heat stress in crops have effect and nitrogen effect.
Nicole: Slides for discussion
V1 BGC simulations
Bias 1: Low surface nutrient biases, arctic is strong, but in other areas as well. Ocean and sea ice underproductive
Bias 2: Extensive Labridor sea ice
Bias 3: river nutrients are low
Bias 4: ocean chlorophyll is low, important for ocean sink of CO2
Dissolved oxygen is too low
Unrealistically shallow mixed layers in southern ocean
High resolution does better
Working to improve the these
River nutrients: Virtual fluxes in POP, that minimized this. Freshwater inputs cause problems. Nutrient fluxes with MOSART is needed, might not be reasonable in arctic region (MOSART can’t handle ice). Alternatives? Not right now.
Export production? We want it, but can’t get it. Matt can calculate particulate, it’s low
Will any approaches help with arctic intermediate water simulated? Hope so, could use help. Small changes in KPP. Lots of physics issues will help with biogeochemistry. (High resolution near coastal regions could help). Expecting new grid that hasn’t seen biogeochemistry yet.
Need to fix sea ice nutrients. Nicole added N mineralization in sea ice.